wmbell wrote: Are you trying to make us laugh, while proving my point about timely releases??
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Just so you know, I had no intention of making this a "personal attack", "mistrust", or "disrespect" issue. And in my opinion, I still don't believe that it has made it there, or should ever do so. In fact, I've been a loyal user and advocate of CB for some time now, and I have been a paying subscriber at least twice.beat wrote: Ok, now that things have cooled down a bit ... I'm unlocking this thread, so others can chime in and that we all can have a constructive and respectful discussion.
Before I reply myself, I would like everyone replying in this thread to have read first
the excellent blog "Free Joomla Support" by Brian Teeman and our Code of Conduct
We are perfectly ok with constructive criticism (we actually like it!) and different opinions (and we respect them too!). But we are not ok with personal attacks and mistrust or disrespect of others
As much as I've benefited from Community Builder, I've also invested quite a bit of time editing, fixing, massaging, tweaking, and upgrading it, so that it stays stable. Unfortunately, to many of us, it seems more like a "free like a puppy" experience.beat wrote: Ok now to reply to the frustration:
As a reminder, CB is *free* like beer, and the community support in the whole forum is *free* too, except for the 2 advanced and professional priority support forums. CB exists thanks to community contributions, and personal time (and money) investment from the CB Team and CB Workgroups, as well as to the contributions from memberships, donations, and other sales on this site.
Okay... So, just to clarify... You're saying that CB 1.3.1 will install "fine" on Joomla 1.6 but will only run "perfectly fine" in the last 1.6 beta?beat wrote: Just to share our own frustration in this release: our aim and goal was to release CB 1.4 next day after Joomla 1.6 stable. And for that, we have been following the Joomla 1.6 API (actually because of this preparation since months already, CB 1.3.1 installs fine on Joomla 1.6 beta, RC and stable, and runs perfectly fine in last Joomla 1.6 beta as well). However adapting to last minute changes in Joomla 1.6 stable API showed to be more complex and uncovered more bugs in Joomla 1.6 that we had to troubleshoot and workaround. As a conclusion, the changes were too big to release directly CB 1.4 Stable. Now such thread titles like this one are accusatory to say the least, and certainly not corresponding to our code of conduct. We however decided to leave the thread as is unedited and open until release of CB 1.4 RC.
I respect this move, however releasing CB 1.4 RC the day after the membership sale goes away give the customer the perception that they are being "cheated". Maybe I would have paid the sale price, but how was I to know when you were going to make your release? The forge showed the team was already behind schedule and "overdue".beat wrote: Up to now, RC releases were only tested inside CB Testing workgroup, a team of selected volounteers poking right now at CB 1.4 RC as well. Due to demand, we have decided to extend the testing to another group were feedback isn't an obligation like in CB Testing workgroup, but not to make it a public testing, to keep feedback flow in manageable size. At same time we wanted to thank you people supporting the CB project. Thus the decision to give CB 1.4 RC to the CB Testing workgroup AND to Pro Members for the testing period now.
Yay! :woohoo:beat wrote: CB 1.4 stable release has been now scheduled for February 14th, and will of course be free to everyone.
Will you please point use to some of the patches to apply? Thanks!beat wrote: Those who can't wait and don't want to pay for a membership still can use CB 1.3.1 on Joomla 1.6 with a few restrictions documented in CB 1.4 closed tasks, most having even patches that you can apply.
What qualifies as "helping positively others above average"?beat wrote: Or... of course, if we notice someone contributing or helping positively others above average in the forums, we will be honoring that as well.
Thanks, for all your hard work!beat wrote: So if you understand correctly the above, it's not about commercial or becoming rich, but about having a sound and solid model to fund the work on CB. Next big step to release will be CB 2.0.
Thus, back to work.
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